cliff negotiations. while there are outlines of what a possible compromise could look like, liken stead of raising tax rates to 39.6% which was the clinton-era rate, maybe go to 37% and close some loopholes and deductions. there are still not indications that house republicans are willing to do that. and on the spending side, which really if you look at the media across the board, there hasn't been a lot of focus on it at all. the spending side. and what spending cuts are on the table. we haven't heard anything specific about what is in addition to what's been out there from the very beginning. jon: right because the republicans claim the country doesn't have an income or a revenue problem it has a spending problem, and that's where republicans say the bulk of the savings, or the rescue plan for this -- this budget is going to come. >> reporter: sure, i mean you have some proposals that are out there, for example, means testing, medicare, social security. you have adjustments to consumer price index with